The main speaker talked on the subject of The Establishment Principle of the
church, an exposition about the relationship of the church to the government.
The speaker was the Reverend Gavin Beers, of Ayr, Scotland. Reverend Beers
presented four types of church/government relationships:
Type 1: Government dominated by the church.
Type 2: Church dominated by the government.
Type 3: Volunteeristic, i.e., people free to choose their own form of religion without governmental interference. Supposedly, the government would be neutral in all aspects of religion, allowing all religious groups to worship and behave as they see fit.
Type 4: Establishment principle, in which there is full cooperation between the church and the state. The church is allowed freedom to worship God and behave according to biblical principles. The state would not interfere with church operations. The state would suppress apostasy and punish heresy. Neither church nor state would dominate the other; the two would walk hand in hand, as friends.
Type three relationships are the present-day principles that
most Western societies aim at manifesting.
Rev. Beers made the point that types 1, 2, and 3 are not
consistent with the examples given in the Bible; most of his examples were
taken out of the Old Testament. Only type 4, i.e., the establishment principle
is biblically sound. I was told by one attendee that all the objections to the
establishment principle are pragmatic objections. I would fully agree with that
assessment—in my view, the establishment principle will not work in any
present-day polity.
The reason that the establishment principle will not work is
that we live in a multicultural world where there is no consensus of
correctness in religion. Many different cultural groups have just as many
different religious beliefs; and each one thinks all the others are wrong.
One major function of government is to prevent bloodshed
among the populace. We, as humans in society, understand that types 1 and 2
relationships have resulted in extreme forms of violence and bloodshed among
the people. I believe that none of us would like to go back to those kinds of
church-state relationships. In like manor, I would be very reluctant to think
of the establishment principle as the best way for church-state relationships
to be set up.
It sounds good to think of the church and the state walking
hand in hand as friends; but the truth is that if the state is authorized to
stamp our apostasy and punish heresy, it would become necessary for the state
to determine what apostasy is and what heresy is. That becomes very problematic, in my mind! In giving the state the
function of figuring out what to punish and what to stamp out, we come very
close to functioning in a type 2 relationship—the entity that holds the sword
holds the control over the other.
So…we Westerners have come to the conclusion that we just
want the government out of our religious business; we want to be left alone, if
possible. On the other hand, we want the option of expressing our religious
beliefs freely and of helping other people to see religious things the way we
do. I believe that the proper Christian thinking would leave it at that and
expect the Holy Spirit to do the work of conversion. I believe that the
Christian faith can hold its own in any kind of reasonable discussion—we do not
need the force of the state behind our belief system. Let us function openly in
the marketplace of ideas.
We Christian peoples should have learned from history the
dangers of governmental intervention in religious matters. I am told that the
magistrates of the ancient Persian Empire discovered the value of separating
religions from the administration of the government; and the result was, for
the most part, peace among the populace. But…over and over, again, governments
have been established that interfered with freedom of religion. History is full
of that kind of civic governmental meddling in religion—all to the detriment of
the people.
I believe that Rev. Beers makes the mistake of thinking that
the descriptions of church-state relationships in the Old Testament are
prescriptive of the way things should be today. I believe that those descriptions were just that, i.e., descriptions. They were not prescriptions of what we should be doing
today. As a matter of fact, organizing church-state relationships as Rev. Beers
suggests it is an open invitation to conflict, persecution, limitation of
Christian freedom, and bloodshed.
We Western democratic republicans have demanded freedom of
religion. Well, if we really mean that, it means that all religions must be
granted that religious freedom. “Freedom of religion” is not just freedom for
Christians; it is freedom for all religions in the realm.
I must admit, however, that Rev. Beers suggested that the
establishment principle might apply only in the millennium. I would suggest
that it might only apply even at a later time—that is, in heaven, itself.
Another objection I have to the establishment principle is
that I just do not have enough antipathy toward other religious people to apply
it. I would just as soon see them practice their own forms of religion in their
own ways—with two caveats:
1)
I want freedom to present the claims
of Christ to my neighbors. I am willing to listen to them if they wish to
express their religious beliefs to me; but I want to be able to reason with
them about the basic features of Christianity. I firmly believe that the
Christian faith can hold its own in a straight up reasonable debate. I also
believe that the Holy Spirit can act on the hearts of unbelievers. I do not
need to worry about getting some external, governmental force to back up my desire
that they be converted; nor do I welcome the government ferreting out apostasy
and heresy. I do not welcome governmental interference in my evangelical
efforts.
2) I want the government to intervene in religious conversations, even to
the point of exerting force, if any particular religion is advocating overthrow
of the government. That is the only reason I think that government intervention
is appropriate. Following are two examples of anti-government rhetoric that
should certainly be censored by the government:
a) The Wahhabi branch of the Sunni
Islamic religion has several mosques in the United States that advocate violent
reaction to the American way of life. A study conducted by the non-governmental organization, Freedom House,
found Wahhabi publications in mosques in the United States. These publications included
statements that Muslims should not only "always oppose" infidels
"in every way", but "hate them for their religion … for Allah's
sake", that democracy "is responsible for all the horrible wars of
the 20th century", and that Shia
and certain Sunni Muslims were infidels.
This kind of doctrinal teaching should be monitored by the government and
silenced for the public peace.
b)
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright of the
Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has been documented as saying
several very un-American statements in public discourse. Rev. Wright was the
pastor of President Obama and his wife for many years, but it must be said that
the president and his wife have strongly repudiated these un-American remarks
and have withdrawn their membership from that church. This kind of
anti-American talk needs to be silenced by the government for the sake of the
public peace. There are other examples of anti-American rhetoric going on in
our country, e.g., flag burning, etc. All of this should be forcibly suppressed
by the government.
So…what do I think should be the proper relationship of church to state?
I believe that Christians should be actively advocating for Christian
principles in government by helping Christians get elected to government
office. I believe that we have the responsibility of keeping ourselves informed
of social and political affairs and for writing letters and e-mails to our
representatives expressing our beliefs. I believe that we should be presenting Christian
issues from the pulpits of our churches and actively promoting Christian
politicians there. I also believe what
was said by President Ronald Regan. He said that if a candidate for office
expresses 60%-80% of what you want to see in that office, vote for him. There
are no perfect candidates. Not to vote is to violate your sacred duty as an
American citizen. We are the most fortunate people in the world to be Americans.
To bring this discussion down to practicalities, if you are opposed to
the policies of the Obama Administration and you refuse to vote for Mitt
Romney, you are automatically voting for President Obama.
Hello Grandfather,
ReplyDeleteA very interesting post. I think Pastor Beers answered many of the questions you raise in his second message titled "National Religion: 5 Essential Principles." You can access it here: http://bit.ly/NuyoLL. One of the points he raised that was helpful to me is the fact that in Romans 13, we are told that the function of the civil government is to suppress evil and support good (verses 1-4). The standard for good and evil is God's Law, summarized in the 10 Commandments. Pastor Beers pointed out that in our modern day, we have arbitrarily chosen to enforce only the second table of the Law (commandments 5-10, which deal with our relationship to man), and omitted the first table, which deals with our relationship to God. He argued that there is absolutely no biblical warrant for this separation, and that the civil magistrate is to enforce the whole law of God. It follows then that the civil government is also to support the worship of the true God and suppress the worship of false gods (1st Commandment), support the proper mode of the worship of God and suppress false worship (2nd Commandment), suppress improper use of God's name and Word (3rd Commandment), and support the keeping of the Sabbath and punish Sabbath breakers (4th Commandment). I found this point very helpful and highly recommend listening to that sermon.
I think also that Mr. Beers would argue that even if a biblical teaching seems impractical, that does not mean that we should not strive to obey it. For example, our government does not enforce the 6th Commandment by allowing and supporting the murder of unborn children. Just because the civil magistrate does not enforce the keeping of this Commandment does not mean that we should not strive to see it kept and strive for change in the government so that this law of God is enforced. I think that Pastor Beers would argue similarly with the first 4 Commandments.
Respectfully,
Jonathan